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#510511 - 02/05/25 07:52 PM PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW
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How can I send SONG settings ( voices of each part, insert and send fx) to external DAW ?

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#510512 - 02/05/25 08:01 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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I read the manuals, can’t find anywhere how to make psr-sx900 transmit sysex

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#510514 - 02/06/25 12:06 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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Don’t use Yamaha, but if you recorded a style into the on board sequencer, and then exported the SMF to your DAW, would it capture all the setup data?
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#510517 - 02/06/25 05:12 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki
Don’t use Yamaha, but if you recorded a style into the on board sequencer, and then exported the SMF to your DAW, would it capture all the setup data?


It does that way.

But I want to use SX-900 as sound module pretty much

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#510519 - 02/07/25 04:50 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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Any help greatly appreciated

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#510520 - 02/07/25 05:45 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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My advice would be, if you find a workaround that works, don’t ignore it because you’d PREFER to do it a different way!

Arrangers aren’t workstations. They are rarely designed to give total flexibility in a studio environment. They tend to get designed to the level of the ‘average’ arranger user.

In your case, you might look around at some of the apps designed to be general purpose control surfaces on iPad or Surface, and see if anyone has programmed an SX series template yet. I can see MIDI easily able to call up Registrations (which would achieve what you want if you do the voice and effect edits in the SX first) but I can see considerable difficulty trying to use sysex to route the various Parts through whatever chain of FX you want (don’t forget, SX voices can be routed through several insert FX, not just one).

As a simple sound module, if you let the DAW call up the Registration, I think it’s likely you’ll get basic control (vol pan FX depths and stuff like that). But I shudder to think how complex the sysex is going to have to get to initialize a chain of effects on a certain Part. Far simpler to let the Registration do the heavy lifting then just address the Part as set up…

Again, no hands on experience here, just the way arrangers in general tend to get designed. But things have got MASSIVELY more complicated since the good ol’ days of calling up the Tone and setting chorus and reverb sends! Ah, for simpler times… 🥺😱
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#510529 - 02/08/25 05:45 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki
My advice would be, if you find a workaround that works, don’t ignore it because you’d PREFER to do it a different way!

Arrangers aren’t workstations. They are rarely designed to give total flexibility in a studio environment. They tend to get designed to the level of the ‘average’ arranger user.

In your case, you might look around at some of the apps designed to be general purpose control surfaces on iPad or Surface, and see if anyone has programmed an SX series template yet. I can see MIDI easily able to call up Registrations (which would achieve what you want if you do the voice and effect edits in the SX first) but I can see considerable difficulty trying to use sysex to route the various Parts through whatever chain of FX you want (don’t forget, SX voices can be routed through several insert FX, not just one).

As a simple sound module, if you let the DAW call up the Registration, I think it’s likely you’ll get basic control (vol pan FX depths and stuff like that). But I shudder to think how complex the sysex is going to have to get to initialize a chain of effects on a certain Part. Far simpler to let the Registration do the heavy lifting then just address the Part as set up…

Again, no hands on experience here, just the way arrangers in general tend to get designed. But things have got MASSIVELY more complicated since the good ol’ days of calling up the Tone and setting chorus and reverb sends! Ah, for simpler times… 🥺😱


Good point. Thanks for the advice.

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#510531 - 02/08/25 08:09 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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Actually I realized that the registrations don’t save song panel settings , nor the song save option. So far the only way is to use the internal sequencer to save the voice selections.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to save song panel settings somehow without recording the voice selection into the internal sequencer ?

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#510536 - 02/09/25 04:52 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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This is the the settings I need to be able to save and recall.

Noticed the photo didn't get uploaded. Trying to figure that out.


Edited by Vadim (02/09/25 04:53 PM)

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#510542 - 02/10/25 12:36 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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I may have used the wrong terminology… (I’m a Roland guy!). Whatever calls up EVERYTHING (the style, the sounds, the effects routing, any edits, etc..)

What’s that called in Yamahaspeak?

In Rolandspeak, the ‘Performance’ recalls everything. The OTS recalls keyboard layouts.
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#510546 - 02/10/25 09:00 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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Yamaha calls those "Registrations."

Vadim, apologies if you already tried this... But perhaps you could connect an external sequencer or DAW to your Yamaha's "MIDI Out." Access the Yamaha's MIDI menu, and configure it to send all data. Then, select a registration, and see what the MIDI / SysEx looks like. By "spying" on the internal workings of the board like this, it might tell you what kinds of messages you need to send to set the voices and FX, etc. My $.02.

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#510549 - 02/11/25 09:38 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki
I may have used the wrong terminology… (I’m a Roland guy!). Whatever calls up EVERYTHING (the style, the sounds, the effects routing, any edits, etc..)

What’s that called in Yamahaspeak?

In Rolandspeak, the ‘Performance’ recalls everything. The OTS recalls keyboard layouts.


In Yamaha it's "registration" memory

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#510557 - 02/12/25 04:03 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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Originally Posted By Vadim
Actually I realized that the registrations don’t save song panel settings , nor the song save option. So far the only way is to use the internal sequencer to save the voice selections.

Does anyone know if it’s possible to save song panel settings somehow without recording the voice selection into the internal sequencer ?


I’m confused. Last two posts say the Yamaha ‘Registration’ saves everything, like Roland’s Performances, but this states the Registrations don’t save the song panel settings. Am I missing something..?
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#510571 - 02/14/25 06:56 AM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Diki]
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Originally Posted By Diki
I may have used the wrong terminology… (I’m a Roland guy!). Whatever calls up EVERYTHING (the style, the sounds, the effects routing, any edits, etc..)

What’s that called in Yamahaspeak?

In Rolandspeak, the ‘Performance’ recalls everything. The OTS recalls keyboard layouts.


That's what I'm confused to. Registration Memory is Supposed to save All panels settings, but for some reason song panel settings don't get saved, I'm assuming I have some preference option set that is preventing those panel settings from being saved


Edited by Vadim (02/14/25 06:56 AM)

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#510573 - 02/14/25 09:12 AM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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Could you elaborate on what you mean by ’song panel settings’?
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#510585 - 02/16/25 03:58 PM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Diki]
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in Yamaha "panel" means "mixer" I guess. There are separate tabs for style panel / mixer, and for song and for left and right hands

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#510588 - 02/17/25 11:01 AM Re: PSR-SX900 Song SysEx dump send to DAW [Re: Vadim]
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So, if the Registration doesn’t save these, how on earth do you call up something with everything ready to go?

Or are you making changes, and then not storing them in the registration? I’m still unsure what the problem is.
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