Don't know who you're referring to, Ian, but as for me, I think arrangers are technological marvels which, in the right hands, can produce acceptable (though predictable) music. I just don't think anyone will compose a 'Beethoven's Fifth' with one (on the other hand, they probably won't on a pan flute either). Also, any comments, thoughts, or attitudes, I may have about 'Arrangers' is ALWAYS in reference to the instrument being used in it's primary role and in the most traditional (basic) way; LH chords, RH melody/solo. I think they are great tools to produce all but a finished product. JMO.

chas