Seems like plenty of people are buying MOTL Yamaha 76's... enough for them to continue making them. Fair number buying Yamaha BOTL 76 arrangers too. Of course, disregard that last sentence if you are still under the delusion that DGX's, YPG's and NP-80v's AREN'T Yamaha 76 arrangers...

And you know what? The reason this thread goes around and around and around basically boils down to Ian's self-appointed position as spokesperson for Yamaha. You see, were Ian to simply say that HE doesn't see the need for a 76, well, it would be easy to ignore his position. But he chooses to speak FOR Yamaha. And, unfortunately, his blunt (to the point of insult), stoic and stubborn attitude, once in the guise of Yamaha's actual position, garners the exact response that anything worded so uncaringly from a corporation would get, anywhere.

'It's our position, because it's our position' is something that too strongly resembles your mother telling you 'Because we TOLD you!' rather than a REAL explanation. Once you see past all the fallacies in Ian's explanations to questions like 'other companies make a profit on TOTL and MOTL 76, why can't Yamaha?' or 'Yamaha actually DO make 76 arrangers, just BAD ones - why is that?' and you get the response, apparently the official Yamaha line (according to Ian), of 'No... not gonna happen. Go away. Learn to take no for an answer' ad nauseam, you start to think you actually ARE addressing Yamaha.

And, personally, I won't take THAT attitude off of ANY corporation. Give me a reasonable explanation, that actually fits the FACTS (rather than inventing them), and I'll go away happy. But when 'we can't make money off them', while other companies DO, well, I'm insulted you'd even try that paper-thin excuse. And 'Stop bugging me, I told you NO!'... well, that doesn't even need me to tell you how insulting that is.

I'm a serious customer. I've bought thousands of dollars of Yamaha products over my career. If they made the product I want, I'd buy it. A LOT of people would buy it. If a 76 PSR was offered, just exactly how many DGX's do you think would sell..? I bet NOT ONE!

And THAT, my friends, is the REAL reason they are not being made. Nothing to do with no-one would buy them. Nothing to do with no demand. It's simple corporate protection of a division that has made a product that doesn't compete with another product from another division. So they invent an artificial barrier, to protect the competing divisions from their own idiocy. Truth is, the customer loses, and the corporation loses, and no-one involved in this decision wants to admit it.

But Ian... quit speaking for the company, and we'll quit constantly bringing up the subject. At least, we'll quit addressing our needs and concerns to YOU. And, without your responses, well, that's 50% of the entire traffic GONE...!

Takes two to have an argument. You stay out of it, it's a monologue (at least, position-wise... there's PLENTY here want what I do!). But, if reading over and over that someone's REAL needs are being unfulfilled by your religion (oops! meant corporation! ) is setting your teeth on edge, better get used to US saying 'No!' as much as you like saying it!

Yamaha have changed their position in the past. That means they CAN in the future. If they NEVER made 76's, I'd say it was a lost cause. But they do now, they have in the past, and will probably continue to. All we are asking is a TINY change in emphasis.

Sorry, chum, but if you want this conversation to cease, you are going to have to stop acting as an ad hoc spokesman for Yamaha. I already know YOU don't want a Yamaha 76. But when you choose to speak for Yamaha, don't be so astonished that 'No!' is not an acceptable answer.