Henni
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Originally Posted By: Dnj
you decide....
Originally Posted By: Dnj
The Ketron Ajamsonic in demo sounds amazingly real.... but, in the REAL world is it more proficient "all around" then the top arranger dogs like Tyros5, Pa3x, BK9, etc,.... especially in a live professional stage performance scenario?
Thoughts
Originally Posted By: tony mads usa
Donny ... to MY ears the Ketron Ajamsonic beat out every board at the jam at Gary's ... the drums were as realistic as you could get, and the 'after touch' capabilities are great ... AJ did this one thing with a sax voice where he hit one note and got a 'flutter' of notes that blew me away ... now, granted, AJ was playing through a HUGE speaker, (but not in stereo) but I was playing my Pa900 and Steve was playing his T5 through the same speaker and there was no comparison ... I doubt that all the boards were eq'd the same, and I know AJ eq'd the mixer to make us sound better, but to me the Ajamsonic was the "Chairman of the Boards" ... Now, at this point in MY career, I know I could not justify the price, and for MY needs the Ajamsonic would be overkill ... but if I were younger and looking to play a lot more gigs, ... hmmmm ... However, I am surprised that there is no sequencer ?!? ...
Originally Posted By: tony mads usa
Originally Posted By: travlin'easy
Well, from my perspective, all the arrangers sounded great, and none, at least to my shot to Hell hearing, sounded significantly better than the other. And, to perfectly honest, at least from the way I look at this industry, the vocals are the most important item to consider with any arranger. The keyboards ALL do, and DID a great job of providing excellent accompaniment to the guys singing the songs. And, our audiences demand great vocals. By and large, they could care less about the accompaniment behind the vocalists, hence the popularity of Karaoke, backing tracks, midi files, etc... As it turned out, AJ is one Hell of a good singer as well as a player. Gary
I am not putting down ANY of the boards that were at the jam because they all DID sound good, but Gary, I LOVE YA MAN, and you are entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect my friend, if you didn't hear a MARKED difference in the Ajamsonic, then: A)you were out grilling some of that great food you prepared for us; or 2) you had one too many Green Margaritas ...
Now Gary, I'm just 'rattling your cage' a bit, but seriously, I DID notice a marked difference ... How about the rest of the members who were there - am I alone in my judgement???
And, yes, vocals are a major part of our performances, but many of us like to play some instrumentals during a song, much like we hear on a record, and I think the Ajamsonic voices - such as the sax - would add considerably to that part of a performance especially when playing in other than an assisted living environment ...
JMHO
Originally Posted By: Bill Lewis
What Gary said is true. But I think the Kentron was a killer. really did stand out above the others. You have to really appreciate its abilities yourself as the audinece won't know or care too much. And except for the NH circut you better be doing a bunch of stuff as Donny does besides just Arranger playing.
It is the best of the best though.
Originally Posted By: Dnj
Here are some more style demos with Ajamsonic...... I spoke with AJ and if you can contain your excitement the NEW SUPER STYLES are coming in just 14-20 days I am told !! ..... I can't wait to hear them!!!
Eventually will ALL Audya AJAMSONIC Styles be SUPERSTYLES?
Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
Donny,
Hmmmm ... The SUPER STYLES will be available to AJAMSONIC and non AJAMSONIC AUDYA users (finally).
As to all AUDYA AJAMSONIC STYLES being SUPER STYLES, we leave this to the end user to manually update the older styles with the new Audio Drums, bass and guitars - then save with their own name, as we would rather spend the time and resources developing more and more and .....
However from here on, all styles released will be of the SUPER STYLES standard .... and better.
Thanks,
Originally Posted By: Dnj
Great news AJ......let's face it your ears don't lie...... The Ajamsonic sounds amazingly LIVE!!!
Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
Ah ... my ears are tuned to the real stuff my friend - this helps us when we develop new sounds and styles. However, I have also accepted the fact that it's not the sound for everyone (no sound is actually).
Now a keyboard that has and handles equally well BOTH the LIVE and STUDIO/Polished sound? Hmmm...
Originally Posted By: Bachus
Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: Bachus
I had an Audya 4 for over a year, it was more in the repairshop then in my home studio..
Please elaborate further... this is what players want to hear about..
Indid in several posts in the past, i was using the audya 4 in combination with the Korg Kronos and my DAW ( ableton / vst ), i never got the time to do the Ajamsonic update, because from the 14 months i owned it, it was out for repairs more then 9 months.. The pcb that controlled the buttons kept breaking down.. They kept replacing it, but never found the cause why it kept breaking... I think engineers at Ketron could never figure out the real problem.. But to be honest, i browsed a lot about Audya hardware problems on the internet, and it actually seemed like i was just very unlucky with having the one faulty unit.. In the end i got so frustrated that i sold it.
The styles quallity even before the ajamsonic upgrade was outstanding, and since we all know what AJ can do for soundquallity the ajamsonic version must be awesome.. I think the standard style quallity outshined my current PA3x, but only in quallity, not in options. PA3x is a beast when it comes to tweaking, not only the styles parts, but also the sounds..
Personally i almost never used the internal sounds of the audya, kronos and vsts just outshined most of them, and so in my opinion does the PA3x. I dont know how much they improved with the Ajamsonic upgrade, but back then i used the audya4 mainly as a rhytmbox..
The weakest point in my opinion of the audia was its midi controll and the fact that it missed out on pc connectivity... But just using it as a rhytm box with its internal stuff was good.
Originally Posted By: Henni
Aaaaah!
So some are beginning to see the light, even though it took some time.
I think AJ is doing a great job in making the fantastic Ajamsonic Audya known to all. And on top of this he gave & is still giving EXCELLENT support to anyone who approached him, no matter where they live.
I could not care less for Ketron Italy - AJ is my one stop Ketron guy & I only have VERY good things to say about the way he helped me till now.
And in South Africa a brand new Ajamsonic Audya 5 costs half the price of a new Tyros 5. Talking dealer prices though. No idea what one can be had for through Frank....
So all in all, I have to say that nothing beats the Audya for realism, & nothing beats the Yamaha for the variety of styles being feely available. And luckily for me I have both.
And it keeps on getting better with AJs upcoming version 3 update which I'm really looking forward to!
I'll end with this: Sometimes I put the Audya aside and fiddle with my S950 instead. And then, when I fire up the Audya again after playing with the Yamaha for awhile, I'm once again blown away by the difference in sound quality. I guess nothing will EVER sound the same after having owned an Audya! And it's not only the live drums, it's EVERYTHING, right down to the superior style engine as mentioned rightly somewhere else. There's nothing boring or repetitive about the Audya styles. Man it's nice when i.e. the bass player unexpectedly does his own thing in between, & even so the drummer. It makes everything just that more live!
And the best of all are the audio and other loops that could simply be browsed into any part of any style. It literally takes only 5 minutes or so to transform just about any style to ones own personal liking. And I'm not talking about changing the midi voice only, but changing the whole loop or the whole track of that section of the style. It's like having a separate multipad for each track of each section of each style - just think about this for awhile... And the choices of "multipads" are enormous as there is a HUGE library to choose from by now. And most of these "multipads" come in loops that are at least 16bars in length for each section of each part of each style & on top of everything mentioned thus far even behaves different for different chords too!
Nothing boring about the Audya at all!
Cheers all,
Henni
Originally Posted By: leezone
I like what I hear Are we talking only about 6 or so new super styles?
Great job AJ, Sokratis...
Originally Posted By: Ketron_AJ
There are about 24 Super Styles in this first release - 8 that Sokratis worked on and 16 that we did over here ourselves.
There are also other new styles which are not SUPER STYLES - these will be made available too ... coming soon!
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