Realizing that their are several Roland G70 owners (Fran, Diki, Stephenm52, Cassp, etc) on this forum, I'd really love to hear some G70 songs played & recorded utilizing live "auto accompaniment arranger mode". Any takers?

Unfortunately, because I'm not a member of the Roland Users group (not currently a Roland arranger owner), not able access song posted there, so uploading to: Boxnet or YouSendit , preferable.

Scott

yeh, me too.

That is not correct! Anyone - member or not - has full access to the world's largest collection of Roland arranger media clips (both audio and video) at www.roland-arranger.com. Just visit these URL's to listen to Diki and other Roland arranger owners, who have kindly shared their demos.

Video

Audio

Notice that we offer 99% of all media files as streaming files, so you don't have to download huge amounts of data to see/listen to the demos

/Søren

Søren, many thanks for the links. Terrific Roland site. Throughly enjoyed Diki's superb arrangement and playing on "Can You See Clearly Now", "Friend of A Devil", and "Saving Tehra", and & can finally appreciate how much the G70 is an ideal tool for song production arrangement. Diki . . . Bravo!

That said, because I suspect the principal reason most people buy arrangers vs Worksation/Synths is for it's one man style auto-accomp mode live performance feature, I'd still like like to hear how the Roland G70 sounds when performed in a live one man band 'auto accomp' mode style. Still hoping Synthzone member Roland G70 players will share your G70 songs produced this way, especially realizing that myself, and quite a few Synthzone member Tyros2 players have shared our 'arranger style' recorded music already. I'm of course excited to hear auto- accomp arranger mode music performed (by SZ members) on the Korg PA800 and Ketron SD1+ as well. It's one thing to simply talk, brag, & argue about our Keyboards, and another thing to actually hear fellow Synthzone members playing them, right?

Scott

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 08-30-2007).]

Stay tuned I'll try to get something posted real soon.

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For some of us who only have dialup connections streaming files won't work. I may have missed something but can these files also be downloaded?

sorry it was a G1000....more to come

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-01-2007).]

You have great voice, Donny, and this is a fine recording...especially considering you did it so quickly.

Do you have any instrumental only recordings of the G70?

Ian

Ian I'll look tru my pc ........I might have one or two...if not I'll have to start recording with my SD1+............I think with all the hoopla going on here on SZ I think its time we all put up or shut up.....after all isn't this what this General Arranger Forum is all about ?
lets all forget who's better then who....what keyboard is better then what and start PLAYING, Sharing DEMOS, Learning from each other's styles....Tips, Tricks, ideas, techniques....shall we? What is the problem?



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 08-31-2007).]

I am not going to comment on the playing or singing (all of which were fine ) but make a few quick comments about the sound... Firstly, the piano picked by Donny is NOT the GrandX TOTL piano in the G70. In fact, it's a poor one even by G1000 standards. There are a lot of 'holdover' sounds in the G70 to ensure compatibility with earlier sequences and styles, and it sounds like Donny picked one of those that pre-date even the G1000 (who's best piano A11 isn't even in the G70).

Secondly, Donny had his G70 quite a while ago, before OS3 completely re-vamped the styles...

But finally, and most troublingly, I can't find that style in my G70's ROM. Admittedly, I am now at OS3, but I don't remember any of the styles getting replaced wholesale, more just EQ and sound adjustments to them. This leads me to believe that the style Donny might be playing was an import. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I just played every waltz in the ROM (there aren't actually very many ) and I couldn't find that style.

Now, if it IS an import (an older G1000 style or even earlier), unless you tweak it in the Makeup Tools, it will continue to address the old G1000 or even earlier sounds. Which is what, IMO, it is still doing. Once again, forgive me if I'm wrong, Donny, but every single sound in that demo sounded Sound Canvas...

And, if I AM wrong, and it IS a ROM style, trust me... they have changed them SO much, I can't even recognize that style! But, to my ears, that sounds a LOT more like a G800 or so than a G70. Not the best piano, not the best drums, not the best anything, honestly.

Once again, I repeat... I am making NO comment whatsoever about the playing OR the singing... simply about whether this is representative of the SOUND of the G70.

Donny, that's a pretty nice song. I've never heard it before, which doesn't surprise me because I don't listen to Kenny Rogers. What is the title to the song? I want to include that in my repertoire.

"Someone Must Feel Like a Fool Tonight"

1991 Back Home Again.... Album

http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Rogers,_Kenny/Discography/album/P93355/R104951/

Can someone tell me how to download these songs you are discussing. I've been all over the page (at these two sites) and can't find a download button, or even a "listen" button. Thanks.
http://roland-arranger.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=214&Itemid=105 http://www.roland-arranger.com/index.php...d=34&Itemid=105

Diki is right,the instrument Donny plays here is not a G70.
But he sings very good and he plays very well.

Click on one of the articles in either of the lists:

Try pressing this article, which takes you to an audio demo:
http://roland-arranger.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=215&Itemid=105

On the page you find an embedded audio player. Just click on the "Play" icon in the player to playback the demo. Easy as that

If you click on an article in the video demo list you will see a video player (just like on youtube.com). Press play in the player to playback videos

Files are only accessible as streaming medias. However, using a dial up connection shouldn't prevent you from listening to the demos. However, you should probably just wait a while until the player has preloaded the data stream - and only then press play

It is a strategic decision only to offer data streams. This is the direction where the Internet is moving... and in the long run that direction is definitely not taking into account that someone still uses low bandwidth dial up connections! My recommendation is to upgrade to broadband - if that is not possible, then move out of the jungle and into civilization (just kiddin')

Hope my tip works for you

[This message has been edited by weissefar (edited 09-01-2007).]

Ok My bad !!.....now that I did some research on my PC & I have so many songs on different arrangers recorded I had these all in a "Roland" folder this song was played on my G1000 but I cant recall which Piano or style I used its about 5 years ago. Sorry for misleading anyone.


I did enjoy my G70 for many reasons.....mainly the Navigation layout, Harmonizer & Editing makeup tools, Key-feel, touch screen, quality build, SMF playback, styles, & most of the sounds,......
On the flip side...I didn't enjoy the Weight, Size, Brass, Trumpets, Saxes,. but to be hones I was using OS2 not OS3 so my opinions could change on some of the above dislikes if I spent time with it .....aside from the weight & size.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 09-01-2007).]

I still can't find a "play" icon or anything that even suggests playing streaming audio. Can you tell me EXACTLY where it is on the screen at this site you suggested?
http://roland-arranger.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=215&Itemid=105

I spent somewhere between 10-15 hours at the music store test driving the G-70 when it first came out. I loved it at the time but they're breaking from tradition in introducing mostly contemporary dance styles and sounds now (relative to what they used to come up with).

Yes, the dial-up limits me as the Youtube recommendations go flying by me. It's not the money, it's about trying to keep distances between me and "virus's." My understanding is you're more prone to a virus if you leave a wide enough door open.

I know I'm missing a lot (with no access to the Youtube videos), but I've had enough virus crashes and re-installs to retain dial-up, even though it costs me just as much.

Anyhow, I've been trying to listen for a while now to the demo's at "roland-arranger.com." If I'm correct, this is the former Denmark site?

So can one of you stay with me until I can figure it out? P.S. I'm computer literate if that helps.

Thanks again

Mark

Mark hang in there maybe Diki, Weiss, Fran or some of the other Roland G70 people can email you some demos or maybe some YouTUbe demos on CD being you dont have high speed Internet.....which may i say if you have the right anti virus programs installed you wont have the virus problems & it will open the world to you especially musically

Hi Mark
1. Get yourself a good quality security suite and keep it updated, you should then not have any problems. (In addition keep the Windows Firewall active and download Microsoft Defender)
2. Make regular backups of your system, so if the system does crash it will cause minimal disruption.
3. Use a router to connect to the internet, as most contain a hardware Firewall, and allow you to block sites you don’t want. (You will also find many other security settings in there)
4. Make sure you have the Flash Player 9 installed and activated. (This is the software Roland Arranger .com use)
5. The play bar is after the write up, but before the comments. (Just click the arrow)
Hope this helps

Bill

Spyware, trojans, viruses?

Sorry, I'm on a Mac. Would anyone explain to me what those things are?

A serious question from a PC user.

Why hasnt anyone developed a Mac Virus?

Could be because there aren't as many users as PC...

There have been one or two MAC viruses, but nothing of any consequence, and this is simply because even if you made one that destroyed every MAC OS in the world, no one would notice.

Bill

You have hit the nail right on the head

Bill

You don't want a long a geeky answer (even if I were smart enough to give one!) to why so little malware for the Mac, but yes, being only 10-15% of the market share has a little to do with it, but primarily, it is because OSX is built around Unix, a very secure enterprise quality OS.

Windows allows WAY too much to go on in the background without you EVER being aware of it. The Mac OSX demands a little more input from the user before potentially bad things can get on your drive, or mess with your OS. The cost of not having to nursemaid your computer is vigilance against those who exploit that very ease...

I've been running on broadband for over seven years on a Mac with NO virus software, NO spyware detector, and NO router or firewall except the built-in OSX software one. ZERO PROBLEMS....

Laugh it up, fuzzball...! Most of you would trade your right nut not to have to deal with all that Windows cr@p...

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 09-01-2007).]

Dnj....they probably would send me some demo's but what would I do when the next round of sound files gets discussed?

When I had my worst crash, I was running Norton Anti-virus and ZoneAlarm firewall and every three days I would sweep with Spybot, Ad-Aware, Spy Sweeper, Spyware Doctor, and Pest Patrol. Remember how everyone remembers where they were when JFK was targeted? I can remember exactly where I was when I clicked on that one "link" and the computer immediately went to "computer heaven." The re-install (and programs) took two weeks out of my life.

Yes, I am missing a lot but I'll miss even more if the computer goes down again. I'm trying to keep the odds on my side. The only other solution is to buy a cheap Dell and use it just for downloading.

Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to write out these tips. You've probably read already that I'm running anti-spyware and a firewall, though I know some are better than others.

Backups: Yes, I bought a program that backs everything up onto a second hard drive as soon as I save it to it's original location. Then I save the whole hard drive to my externals at the end of every day.

Router: Yes, that IS a good idea. I'm going to look into that as an addition to my arsenal.

I don't have Flash Player 9 installed as I'm trying to keep my plug-ins to a minimum to keep the Registry from bloating. I'm assuming I need it for streaming audio, but I should still be able to download a sound file? Yes?

There is no "play bar" on my screen where you said it should be. But....there is a faint blank rectangle there. Clicking on it does nothing.

Are my supposed to be registered to access the features of the site? I'm on a roll here. I couldn't even register! It wouldn't accept. Unless my firewall is blocking cookies?

If you or anyone has any other ideas, I'd like to hear them. I'm also going down to the library to try and connect on a high speed and IE browser.

BTW, my worst crash was the "rootkit" one. Try getting one of those out before it eats up all your data as an appetizer.

I'm anxious to hear Diki's demo's. They told me he arranges better than Enio Morricone and sings good enough to be on American Idol! And that he also has good posture!

I think we'd all love to hear a few & maybe learn something from them also.

Hi Mark
If you install Flash Player 9 the black bar will turn into the play bar, and you will be able to listen to the songs. (I don’t think the site allows you to download them)
After reading how you have set up your computer, I can see why you are having problems. (You are too cautious)
To use an analogy, if you drive on the Motorway (Freeway) at the correct speed everything is normally fine, if you drive too fast it can cause an accident, if you drive cautiously (Slowly) it can also cause an accident, as everybody around you is not expecting it.
The same applies to computers, if you block virtually everything from running on your computer (Cautious) you facilitate conditions for others to exploit, the same applies if you let too much in, (Drive too fast) therefore follow the instructions below and you should be fine.
1. Use a router to connect to the Internet
2. Download and install the latest service pack for your computer
3. Download the Latest Browser for your computer
4. Download and install all security and hardware updates
5. Reset all their security settings to their default
6. Download and install Windows Defender
7. Install a good security package (Zone, Norton, AVG etc)
8. Leave all the settings at their default settings
9. Go to your account on your ISPs site, and activate any security settings and/or features they provide
10. If a web site asks you to install something, make sure it has a valid security certificate and is from a reputable company, (Adobe, Microsoft etc) and you can then allow it to install and run. (If you make a mistake it can easily be removed later)
11. Make sure all automatic updates for your OS and security software are turned on
12. Run a manual security scan weekly
13. Go to some reputable security sites that will test your computer for online vulnerabilities, (They will try and attack your computer as a hacker and/or virus writer would) if any are found you can then easily plug them.
It may be a good idea to run these security scans before you follow the instructions above, so that you can see the difference before and after. (Warning, make sure you are wearing some dark brown trousers, (Pants) as while you may think your computer is safe, (Because you have limited your downloads and upped you security settings) but in actual fact you will find it is wide open.
Finally, just remember that not everything or everyone on the internet is out to get you. (Basic common sense prevents 99.9% of problems)
Hope this helps

Bill

OTOH, you could just go out and pay under a grand for an Intel Mac, and never have to worry about any of that stuff again. PLUS get pretty near all the apps you need for free (Garageband is a monster music app), and, if you REALLY need to run a Windows program, it will boot regular Windows, or run it in a shell alongside OSX...

But maybe you all LIKE having to worry about hackers and trashed drives...