BTW: Kingfrog, I have been discussing the 802's..they are 8"..you have been referring them as 10 " in everyone of your comments..

As Diki has mentioned, I have tried the economical and modest priced 4", 5", 6.5",8", 10", 12", even 15"...and running them wide open definitely separates the men from the boys...

This Only Factory Direct..has been a manufacturer/wholesaler for decades..They explain how they keep the cost down..They even mention how they arrive at the quality they have..and mention computer assisted in the design...

Get those throw a way units out of your mind....Try them....

I started this adventure looking at a small monitor for in my studio just to hear keyboards...We were looking at the Roland Street cubes, mini cubes, Mackie 150, and the Helicon voice models...The Roland stereo units did sound the best, but the power was not there...they are fine for a small monitoring room...the Mackie had more power (150 model)..but does not sound as warm, and compared to the stereo sound in the Rolands..you can tell the lacking sound...The Mackies were rated 20 plus more times than the Roland, but only twice the volume...The Helicon is very similar to the Mackie, but does have the edge over the Mackie...

Now to this point....After reading the add on Ebay...and reading the questionable stats..I decided to buy the pair of 8" units....less than the price of a single Roland Street, Mackie 150 and the Helicon 300....When I played thru them...it is completely a better unit than all of the others I mentioned..and I will restate..that the Mackie 350's don't touch these for power and fullness..(even though they are 10".. )

As you mentioned the Mackie 450's go down to 55...and there lies the problem..put them on poles and you better have a subwoofer....

Likewise my Yorkvilles are the same..they state down to 55, but still have more bass than the Mackie 450...and the sound is more pleasing (warm)...

Back to the 802's...the bass response is very evident...down to 20...Doesn't seem to calculate that low to me..Never did understand how they arrive at these numbers...My old Roland cubes go down to 38..and they are the best bass response speakers I have ever heard in any unit...They compete with the high power subwoofer on stage...

The 802 has a very good clarity , even in the bass..maybe this is factored into the 25 hz number....It isn't going to thump with the Roland 15" I use...but nothing else will either...

As I mentioned before to some folks, I tested the pair on stage, muting the Yorkville stuff and just using the 802's on the floor...It filled the room (around 150 people)...I don't think anyone noticed a difference..at least on stage we sure benefited from a high volume level...no subwoofer bass, but adequate....Do I have to mention...$240 a pair shipped...

PS: they haven't blowed up ..YET!!!!!!!