Originally Posted By: abacus
How you perceive sounds, and the type of sounds you like, (Not forgetting comparing them with real instruments) can make a big difference to how you rate a keyboard.

As an example, when I heard and tried the T3 (A number of times) I found that apart from the SA2 voices it was way inferior to the T2 (1 step forward, 3 steps back (To me a bit of a lemon) with a very poor compressed sound.
The T4 however (To me) I find is so far ahead of the T3 (It’s what the T3 should have been) that it is a worthy successor to the T2, and Yamaha can be proud.

Contrast this with the PA2x, (After the first update) which for me was so far ahead of the PA1x as to be unbelievable (It was like chalk and cheese).
As to the PA3x,(Like all keyboards) I will have to wait till I hear it and try it live, as there are just too many variables in online demos.

As you can see, the above is pretty much exactly opposite to Spalding’s perception of the instruments. (Hence I always say, try the keyboard live and compare it with real instruments before making a decision)

Bill


The difference is bill that i play my PA1X every day both live and recording, through external speakers mixing desks and the internal speakers. I know each sound very intimately so i know when i am hearing the same sound from the same samples again. Forget the marketing. EDS means nothing when i know i am hearing 80% of the same samples because i play those samples everyday. Thats why i know the step up from the PA2X and 3X sonically is minor. For a short while the Korg PA.com site had the PA800, PA1x and PA2X demos at the same time on their site. All recorded using the same parameters . Many of the demos styles were exactly the same for all three models and all three demos sounded exactly the same. At the time when i pointed this out i was told ' you have to hear it live , you cant tell from online demos' . However i have since heard the 2x live and i am glad i trusted my ears originaly. The only difference is DNC technology but tell me what has korg done with that ? Where are the styles or individual sounds that exploit DNC techniques. Compare the list of SA1 and SA2 sounds from yamaha and pit it against the very best DNC sound (of the handful) Korg have to offer. I am a straight up Korg fan but if i were marking Korg for their latest offering in terms of an upgarded keyboard i would have to give them a C+ . They could and should have done much better .

No doubt they will still sell loads of them but if you think i have gauged it wrong go to the korg forum site and see how quiet the PA3X or 2x forums are. Either people have been shocked into silence or noone wants to say the 'the king is not wearing any clothes' (if you remeber the story).